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Post by shiraishi on Aug 28, 2007 0:43:56 GMT 7
Guys why is ryoma in the ova in the first place? Didn't the dates overlap for the US Open and the nationals? So does this mean ryoma lost, and that's the reason why he's back. And not only this doesn't seigaku have way to many regulars? I thought only the top eight from the ranking tournament are supposed to play. So shouldn't seigaku be disqualified?
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Post by marui on Aug 28, 2007 0:49:54 GMT 7
Well what I think is, Ryoma completed the first or second round of the US Open, then didn't turn up for the other matches, something that Nanjiroh did when he was young. Or simply speaking, it's a mistake from the anime. As for the Seigaku 9 business, I have no idea. Could it be a coincidence that it's also a mistake? XD
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Post by tezuka on Aug 28, 2007 0:51:16 GMT 7
he won the us open it was shown at the end of episode 178.
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Post by marui on Aug 28, 2007 0:53:56 GMT 7
Ooh! And THEN he came back to Japan for the nationals! But... Like shiraishi said, didn't the US Open overlap with the nationals?
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 28, 2007 3:03:20 GMT 7
True I think there was a major flaw when they made the OVA's, I don't think Prince of Tennis was supposed to extend that far, it was because of popular demand that they made the OVA's.
As to what Tezuka said they did not at all say that he won the US open in fact the anime ended with him beating leywton hewitt. It never said he won the US open, actually remember the driver in ova 1 that drove ryoma to the nationals. He said that a kid did really well in the US open, if ryoma had won he would have said "A kid won the US open." So I don't think he won.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 28, 2007 3:14:50 GMT 7
but wasn't that suppose to be the last match in the US open
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 29, 2007 7:16:10 GMT 7
It never did say that, the anime ended with the words game and match Ryoma Echizen unless it happened differently in the manga.
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Post by marui on Aug 29, 2007 18:40:06 GMT 7
The US Open didn't even appear in the manga for Echizen, all we know is that Kirihara went to the US Open, don't know about him winning it though.
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Post by genichirou on Aug 29, 2007 18:45:30 GMT 7
in ep 178- before the match started there was this sign saying "ryoma echizen vs lleyton hewitt- US open finals" which means he did win as he beat hewitt
marui- did kirihara? well, i must look at the manga again then. btw, what chapter was that?
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Post by marui on Aug 29, 2007 19:01:34 GMT 7
Don't remember, but it was the intro of Kirihara, look at his tennis bag closely! It says "US Open". I don't remember who introduced him - Shiba? She went there for an interview with the Rikkai regulars (near the beginning of the manga). Or it might be the one where he went to Seigaku to challenge Tezuka...
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 29, 2007 22:52:04 GMT 7
Sill this makes no sense how could the finals have finished so quickly for Ryoma to come back to Japan? What's more is that they said the nationals and the open overlapped.
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Post by marui on Aug 30, 2007 1:10:00 GMT 7
Exactly! I remember Nanjiroh asking Echizen to pick between the US Open (apparently once in a life time for Echizen) and the nationals (which he could always go next year or the year after) and said they both overlap... And he stupidly enough picked the US Open, I mean, you don't get to play in the nationals with the same people on your team very often. Anyways, I swear in the anime it says that this is the 2nd time that Echizen's been invited into the US Open?
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 30, 2007 7:05:02 GMT 7
His second are you serious? However if ryoma won the US open so easily then why did he go. Wouldn't he have liked to play against some 14-15 year olds that can put the ball on fire?
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Post by eijixnarusime on Aug 30, 2007 15:09:05 GMT 7
RYOMA came back to japan because he already win in the US OPEN....i wish he didnt came back.....oh well...hes the PRINCE AFTER ALL........But it would be more interesting if he return in the greatest crisis in seigaku...like fuji became injured..^^but im just imagined it.... Just GAMBATTE SE-I-GA-KU
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 31, 2007 1:20:55 GMT 7
The dates overlap I think this is the third time it's been said, if he could win the finals in the open why did he have to quite the team? I think this is a big blunder on the creator's part.
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Post by marui on Aug 31, 2007 3:13:27 GMT 7
Yeah, and if Ryoma did win the US Open (beat Lleyton Hewitt), why did he come back to Japan and struggle against 14-15 years olds in the nationals? Why didn't he just 'move on' (go pro?).
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Post by eijixnarusime on Aug 31, 2007 12:15:19 GMT 7
umm...if i understand the show correctly...he just came back to support seigaku.... but oishi already know that he still had an injury at his wrist so he play a match with ryoma.... ryoma really dont like to play a match with him, but oishi insult him and he was forced to play a match with oishi... and i guess he continued playing with seigaku because TEZUKA became stronger and he feel that he is not as strong as tezuka anymore... so maybe he want to get more better and the nationals is the answer.......and i also guess that he really love seigaku tennis club..... ITS JUST A GUESS^^
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Post by marui on Aug 31, 2007 22:13:50 GMT 7
Oh yeah, I think that could be true... It's kinda ringing some bells actually...
But still, I think the whole US Open thing that the anime brought up was just ridiculous. It makes no sense and it just gets people confused.
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Post by shiraishi on Sept 1, 2007 2:46:19 GMT 7
Still the club has too many members so they should have been disqualified. Tennis clubs have only 8 regular spots for 7 members and 1 substitute.
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Post by marui on Sept 1, 2007 5:24:38 GMT 7
They didn't start off with 9 regulars. Manga-wise. Oishi allowed Tezuka to take his place, so it was 8. Then something happened in the middle of the nationals and one of the Seigaku regulars had a 'break' from the nationals/ couldn't play in the nationals so Oishi took his place. Er - it was something to do with Oishi's wrist, and him replacing another Seigaku regular because they had an injury themselves. (Sorry if I'm wrong, these are the broken memories on top of my head right now... Maybe I should re-read those chapters...).
But anyways, anime-wise, it's kinda the same. Replace Tezuka with Ryoma. And it's the same ending.
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Post by shiraishi on Sept 1, 2007 6:44:12 GMT 7
A break? The only person who left the team was kawamura and that was during the semi-finals and Oishi played in the match with Hyotei, so that means someone had a break during that time. But still it's illegal to change members during a tournament.
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Post by marui on Sept 2, 2007 8:09:08 GMT 7
But still it's illegal to change members during a tournament. Really? Haha, I'd laugh if Seigaku wins the nationals then the people in charged disqualifies them, so the winners goes to Rikkai. But by then wouldn't it be too late already? They should of disqualified them earlier, or NOW! Then again, it is PoT.
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Post by shiraishi on Sept 2, 2007 9:22:31 GMT 7
I all blame it on takeshi konomi for making the mistake, he should just have made some one from the team retire or something, but then their dreams would be incomplete right? So I'm just guessing this had to be done. But still why did Ryoma have to come back? He left so he should have just stayed put in the US. This way the manga could have been a sort of side story, after Ryoma left.
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Post by marui on Sept 2, 2007 22:54:56 GMT 7
I all blame it on takeshi konomi for making the mistake Remember Atobe's hair? It grew back in a matter of 2 days.
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Post by whisper on Sept 3, 2007 0:56:58 GMT 7
I all blame it on takeshi konomi for making the mistake Remember Atobe's hair? It grew back in a matter of 2 days. I think Kabaji just gave Atobe his hair because Kabaji had his head shaved last we saw him xD
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Post by shiraishik on Sept 3, 2007 19:15:36 GMT 7
no, Atobe is just awesome like that and has mass hair regrowth abilities XD (jk, of course)
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Post by genichirou on Sept 3, 2007 21:06:06 GMT 7
a wig! haha it's a wig!
lol back on topic - well since this series' main character is ryoma i guess he has to be the tournament they have been fighting their way towards- the nationals- right?
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Post by marui on Sept 4, 2007 2:58:02 GMT 7
Remember Atobe's hair? It grew back in a matter of 2 days. I think Kabaji just gave Atobe his hair because Kabaji had his head shaved last we saw him xD No, when we saw Kabaji with his head shaved he was with the shaven Atobe. Both had their head shaved. xD
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Post by xoxoryomaxoxo on Sept 4, 2007 13:26:18 GMT 7
WEIRD...
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Post by shiraishi on Sept 8, 2007 7:24:45 GMT 7
Let's get back on topic then... who here thinks ryoma should not be in the ova's? I for one believe he has no right especially since he left to play in the US open.
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