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Post by tezuka on Aug 24, 2007 12:25:22 GMT 7
i wonder if he can open any doors to Muga no Kyouchi and he said that he could beat sanada's Fuu Rin Ka Zan so it seems he can defeat all of them without a problem. i wonder if he can open pinnacle of perfection
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Post by genichirou on Aug 24, 2007 20:52:32 GMT 7
well i think they said somewhere in the manga - though i cant exactly remember where- that nanjiroh is the only one that can unlock the pinnacle of perfection. correct me if i'm wrong though :] well yukimura may have tricks of his own. we havent really seen him play yet
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Post by tezuka on Aug 24, 2007 22:24:36 GMT 7
yeah you're right they did say that nanjiro was the only one to unlock the last door. i did read that in the manga but the reason i say this is because we have never seen yukimura play. i think they did show in a flashback when tezuka played sanada that yukimura showed up and asked tezuka to play him. sanada said that tezuka was on par with yukimura or even better. that was when they were little.
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 24, 2007 23:03:12 GMT 7
Well I think that Yukimura has muga no kyochi up his sleeve since they do say his on par with Tezuka however wheras Tezuka uses his "Pinnacle of power" yukimura has the "Pinnacle of wisdom". But I think Yukimura might be close to reaching perfection, then this way I think Ryoma will eventually be able to learn the pinnacle of perfection thus allowing him to beat his father afterwards.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 25, 2007 4:30:32 GMT 7
tezuka also has pinnacle of wisdom. he used it against chitose
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 26, 2007 9:18:14 GMT 7
Yeah but he hasn't reached the "Pinnacle of perfection" remember chitose also had the pinnacle of wisdom but it didn't work through the whole match. So Tezuka must be in the same state where he can't release it when he wants to. That is perfection.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 26, 2007 9:24:57 GMT 7
didn't he use it against sanada
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 26, 2007 10:15:50 GMT 7
eh he did? I didn't read the new volumes though, but if he had achieved perfection then why'd he lose?
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Post by tezuka on Aug 26, 2007 10:22:40 GMT 7
didn't they say that chitose said that tezuka was the closet to pinnacle of perfection. if ryoma has amnesia a lot of people think that has to do with the pinnacle of perfection but he didn't open the first door yet pinnacle of hard work or great wisdom
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Post by genichirou on Aug 26, 2007 16:26:23 GMT 7
well he may open it all at once in his match against yukimura (if they do meet in singles 1)- after all, this is most likely the last formal match of PoT.
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 27, 2007 0:22:47 GMT 7
Yeah I agree with Geni this is after all the last match in the tournament. If that's so then this match will probably be one of the longest.
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Post by marui on Aug 27, 2007 22:08:07 GMT 7
Well, if Chitose's able to open a door, and Tezuka two doors, and Ryoma (a 1st year) the PoP, I'm sure Yukimura will know how to, we'll just have to wait. The question is - which door? 1st or 2nd or both?
And I was sort of hoping to see Sanada and Kirihara open at least one door... Ah well. Oh and also Kintarou as well, we haven't really seen his true form yet, have we?
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Post by shiraishik on Aug 28, 2007 21:02:24 GMT 7
Well Sanada has the In part of FuRinKaInZaRai that counters the "pinnacle of wisdom" so i guess he has like an anti-pinnacle. And Kirihara still has a chance to open one in the next match. About Kintarou, if Chitose thought he was closest, i think he can open a door, even if he didn't use it in his match w/Echizen
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Post by tezuka on Aug 28, 2007 21:04:48 GMT 7
i wonder what yukimura has to counter all of sanada's FuRinKaInZaRai
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Post by genichirou on Aug 28, 2007 21:33:44 GMT 7
can he even counter it in the first place lol,FuRinKaInZaRai looks pretty strong. if he could then he could also probably be able to open the 3rd door- cos tezuka, with 2 doors, wasnt able to counter that.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 28, 2007 21:35:21 GMT 7
didn't he say that the only person who could beat sanada FuRinKaInZaRai was him
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Post by marui on Aug 28, 2007 23:41:59 GMT 7
I think he did, 'coz I remember Kirihara saying, "Are you boasting?"
And remember, we haven't seen Yukimura play yet, so it doesn't necessarily have to be the 3 doors to counter Sanada's FuRinKaInZaRai. It could, and most likely, be his own techniques.
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Post by whisper on Aug 29, 2007 7:01:48 GMT 7
I'm just waiting to finally see Yukimura at work. They make him seem like god, which he probably is.
What i'm kind of hoping for is that PoT takes a twist and actually has Ryoma lose to Yukimura ultimately having Seigaku lose. JUST LIKE IN POKEMON! lol -- Y'know, where Ash cruises through to the championship tournament thing but ends up losing it all in the end.
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 29, 2007 7:20:15 GMT 7
Haha yeah pokemon has always been like that has Ash ever won a tournament besides the orange islands? However I doubt they would end the nationals like that it would after all have been a waste of 178 episodes.
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Post by marui on Aug 29, 2007 18:38:03 GMT 7
Yeah, it would've been a waste to all the hard work from before, against other schools. What I really wanted was, Seigaku lose to Rikkai in the Kantou, then they improve and beat them in the nationals, guess all that isn't going to happen now.
And I think something similar happened in slam dunk as well? I'm referring to that Pokemon business lol.
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 29, 2007 22:55:33 GMT 7
True I've always wondered why seigaku won all the tournaments, I mean a loss doesn't kick them out form advancing to the nationals. I mean the top 4 schools get in automatically so it doesn't mean they necessarily lose.
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Post by marui on Aug 30, 2007 1:04:18 GMT 7
Yeah, well I don't really mind Seigaku winning all of their tournaments, but Echizen winning all of his matches >_> At least have him lose once in an official match. I'd rather see Echizen lose than Seigaku =)
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 30, 2007 7:07:09 GMT 7
That's harsh but I don't think that's going to happen because the finals in the nationals are definitely going to singles one where Ryoma is definitely going to win.
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Post by genichirou on Aug 30, 2007 19:14:46 GMT 7
yeah that'd be the happy ending. but really, i wonder how he'll defeat the almighty yukimura (who happens to be even stronger than sanada) it might be a very interesting match.
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 31, 2007 1:18:19 GMT 7
I'll probably laugh if he still has amnesia when he plays him, however I think that yukimura has probably unlocked all the doors of the muga.
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Post by marui on Aug 31, 2007 3:04:43 GMT 7
I think I saw something about Tezuka being on the same level as Yukimura (before the nationals?). Anyways, Yukimura unlocking all the doors of the muga? That's just... WHOA. All the same, I still can't believe that the first time we actually get to see Yukimura play, is the time when he loses to Ryoma.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 31, 2007 3:08:56 GMT 7
some people think that ryoma will open the pinnacle of perfection and he still will lose
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Post by marui on Aug 31, 2007 3:14:43 GMT 7
Why do they say that though?
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Post by tezuka on Aug 31, 2007 3:17:58 GMT 7
I don't know, but i think ryoma will win because if he can't beat Yukimura how can he go against his father?
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Post by marui on Aug 31, 2007 4:36:46 GMT 7
True, and Ryoma's never lost before in an official match, why start now?
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