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Post by serthia on Apr 1, 2008 14:03:56 GMT 7
ahh...ok now I change it...just realize today Its about the best right for me its: tezu>>atobe>>yuki when talking about strongest its: tezu>>yuki>>atobe actually I dont know whos the first yuki or tezu
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Post by BurstOfOrange on Apr 6, 2008 2:09:20 GMT 7
Why no more votes for Tachibana?! He might not be the strongest player, or a fan-favorite But he is the best captain, which I can say without any doubt in my mind. D:
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Post by Akazy on Apr 6, 2008 9:47:28 GMT 7
come on guys Atobe is strong!! if it weren't for that he fainted he might've beat Ryoma!! then again maybe not since he managed to beat the "Child of God"...
& wth, no offense to Tezuka, but he lost to Atobe & Sanada here! why does everyone think he's the strongest? i understand if its Yukimura, but... *shakes head*
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Post by jessie on Apr 6, 2008 9:51:58 GMT 7
come on guys Atobe is strong!! if it weren't for that he fainted he might've beat Ryoma!! then again maybe not since he managed to beat the "Child of God"...& wth, no offense to Tezuka, but he lost to Atobe & Sanada here! why does everyone think he's the strongest? i understand if its Yukimura, but... *shakes head*I think its more people voting for who they like the most, instead of looking at skills (as a captain). But it will always be that way, I guess. I feel like BOO, that Tachibana has the attitude and heart of a good captain.
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Post by BurstOfOrange on Apr 6, 2008 10:11:26 GMT 7
Yes, I quite agree! I mean, Atobe and Yukimura both have far too much pride to do what Tachibana did during the match with Yamabuki. Tezuka is a coin flip, but I don't think he'd be as concerned as Tachibana.
Besides, it's not about the strength of a captain. It's the ability to lead their teammates in the right direction, and not only to win, but to take care and motivate them. There is a reason Fudomine fanboyworshipsidolizes Tachibana after all. *Irked at how far up Atobe/Tezuka/Yukimura are*
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Post by serthia on Apr 6, 2008 12:01:35 GMT 7
people have different opinions ok
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Post by jessie on Apr 6, 2008 12:09:45 GMT 7
Yep, but it just seems most of the votes are biased with fangirlness. Im a little biased about Tachibana, cause I really like the guy, but I admit it, atleast... xD (Plus, I actually think he is the best captain, and probably would even if I didnt like him this much...) Basically, BOO writes it very well, and manages to write down what I feel!
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Post by BurstOfOrange on Apr 6, 2008 23:37:35 GMT 7
I think that's what it's mostly based on too jessie~ xD Teamwork!
Yes, I do understand that people have different opinions... but could someone explain at least how on earth Tezuka/Yukimura/Atobe is the best captain? People are just comparing how strong they are or something. I mean, after they were all beat up from that team with the cool/pissy foreign people and Seigaku invited them to go eat, Yukimura was like "Nunu, we're gunna go train sum mure kkthxby." and all. xD *It actually cracked me up too* Not to mention he got all pissy PMS (I'm sorry Yukimura, it's just too easy to make fun of you xD No offense to any fans, he's really a cool guy) at Sanada for trying to tell him about tennis and the team at the beginning.
Then Atobe is all prideful. I feel like Hyotei is more... independent seperately than as a team. Besides the doubles pairs, it seems they easily go their own way, instead of cooperating as one altogether.
And I mean, Tezuka is good. He's strict, inspiring, but he's careless when it comes to himself. The health and care of a team is very important, including one's self, particularly the captain. He should have very well took his pride and forefited(sp), but he kept going on, and just worrying everyone more. I do think that Tezuka would be the best, after Tachibana though.
8] I'd just like to hear some other reasonings beside who's strongest~ No offense or anything.
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Post by serthia on Apr 8, 2008 10:17:34 GMT 7
tezuka, yuki and atobe are the best captain cause they are doin their best to improve their team like what yuki said when seigaku invited them he says tha t they are gonna train some more. all I gotta say is the more it is stronger the more it is best.....
how about that burst of orange?
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Post by jirou on Apr 8, 2008 12:47:53 GMT 7
Atobe is the best for me but I gotta agree to what serthia had just posted ^^
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Post by neko girl on Apr 8, 2008 12:54:18 GMT 7
Atobe is the best for me but I gotta agree to what serthia had just posted ^^ yeah i totally agree atobe is the best but i agree on serthia also ;D
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Post by jessie on Apr 8, 2008 13:09:06 GMT 7
tezuka, yuki and atobe are the best captain cause they are doin their best to improve their team like what yuki said when seigaku invited them he says tha t they are gonna train some more. all I gotta say is the more it is stronger the more it is best..... how about that burst of orange? I guess it comes down to what you consider most important when it comes to a team, then. For me, improving themselves arent the most important thing. Its important, of course, but the captains I admire are the ones who manage to work hard, and show that they truly care about their team.
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Post by Chippen on Apr 8, 2008 17:12:54 GMT 7
I especially liked what Tachibana told Uchimura and Mori after they lost againt Kikamaru and Oishi. Instead of scolding them, or bitch-slapping them, he told them that they were great for taking two games from them. Ignoring the bad parts and brings up the good parts. Making them feel more confident and secure. One have to be allowed to fail without facing any severe consequences in order to develop properly.
And he really put a good use to the saying "There is no "I" in a team.
Tezuka has a strong will, yes, but at the same time I cant help thinking that he never relied in his team when he kept going on, making his injury even more severe. Although he developed that part later on, when he was put in "doubles" against Shitenhouji.
Atobe is alright I suppose, in some aspects. There is no doubt that he is kind of in love with himself though. Hyotei has strong group with many good individuals. It might be just me, but I don't see how Atobe makes his team improve? They all practice with each other, but Atobe just seems to care more for himself than anyone else. Sure, his team adore him, but for what real reason? I must have seriously missed on in his "greatness". The only good thing was when he helped out Shishido after getting owned by Kippei.
But as someone already mentioned, it also depends on each individual how they want a captain to be. If I could choose to have any captain in the series, there is no doubt that I would choose Tachibana Kippei.
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Post by BurstOfOrange on Apr 9, 2008 2:22:03 GMT 7
Chippen and jessie make excellent points. I'd completely forgotten about that example, and it only pushes me more towards Tachibana in the vote. I'm a perfectionist, and I wouldn't be happy about losing, but I sure wouldn't want to be hit or brushed off. Tachibana's warm words might not have effect on a lot of us, but I sure would have loved hearing them if I was in that position. That's what a captain, I think, is there to do.
And on the subject of Yukimura's training. Remember the matches? Kirihara was bleeding, thrown against the chain gate, made a dent in said gate, and the rest of the team had countless other injuries as well. Then they just go train some more right after that? Bringing up the car crash again, Tachibana pulled his players out. Because he's looking after their well-being, mental and physical. He was even angry that they tried to play in that state. Not to mention, at the end of one of the episodes, the one where Kevin was going around beating everyone, and Tachibana is kneeling down and cheering up one of his plays after losing. xD
Tachibana does seem like the perfect sort of guy to motivate and inspire his team. He's a talented leader.
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Post by serthia on Apr 9, 2008 2:54:40 GMT 7
Chippen and jessie make excellent points. I'd completely forgotten about that example, and it only pushes me more towards Tachibana in the vote. I'm a perfectionist, and I wouldn't be happy about losing, but I sure wouldn't want to be hit or brushed off. Tachibana's warm words might not have effect on a lot of us, but I sure would have loved hearing them if I was in that position. That's what a captain, I think, is there to do.
And on the subject of Yukimura's training. Remember the matches? Kirihara was bleeding, thrown against the chain gate, made a dent in said gate, and the rest of the team had countless other injuries as well. Then they just go train some more right after that? Bringing up the car crash again, Tachibana pulled his players out. Because he's looking after their well-being, mental and physical. He was even angry that they tried to play in that state. Not to mention, at the end of one of the episodes, the one where Kevin was going around beating everyone, and Tachibana is kneeling down and cheering up one of his plays after losing. xD
Tachibana does seem like the perfect sort of guy to motivate and inspire his team. He's a talented leader. about stuff in yukimur's training...we dont know what happened next to it..right?..I know some of them are injured and im sure he didnt force them to train some more it is that his teamates agreed to it.... and this tachibana has this raw talent......as I said before the more the stronger the more it is best!...
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Post by BurstOfOrange on Apr 9, 2008 8:48:06 GMT 7
That's fine, I can see that happening. But as captain, he should have stopped them from going because of their conditions. As I believe, a captain needs the ability to both push their teams further, but to also hold them back when necessary. Otherwise that team would be just like a speeding car heading for the edge of a cliff, with the captain in the driver's seat. Only he can press break effectively.
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Post by serthia on Apr 9, 2008 13:51:48 GMT 7
That's fine, I can see that happening. But as captain, he should have stopped them from going because of their conditions. As I believe, a captain needs the ability to both push their teams further, but to also hold them back when necessary. Otherwise that team would be just like a speeding car heading for the edge of a cliff, with the captain in the driver's seat. Only he can press break effectively. do you mean everytime that their conditions are not good they should hold back?... you mean that they always push themselves.......of course when they reach their limit they are gonna hold back and I believe thet those who hold back when not at their limts are [glow=red,2,300] WEAK![/glow]
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Post by BurstOfOrange on Apr 9, 2008 16:02:03 GMT 7
Ah, but to always be at their limits' length, that's tipping on the very edge of the mountain. I'm fine with their training, as long as it's controlled. Kirihara pushed himself beyond hard in those matches, and went through just as much mental agony. Yukimura, as captain, I feel should have stopped them. Rest for the night, regain their strength and stamina, to train tomorrow. Their injuries could be treated, they could clear their minds, and be in a completely better shape when they do train.
No, they shouldn't hold back all the time. But there are times when they need to be held back, and sometimes only the captain has the final say in the verdict.
So you're saying that a player who sprained an ankle in the middle of a heated match should be pushed to go on because he hasn't reached his limit? It's simply dangerous, hazardous, and typically not safe gernerally I feel for people to always push themselves so hard. It's not necessary half the time, and another form of strength is mental. Too much stress (i.e. from pushing, training, ect.) will damage their play, and start to affect their body. But stress is also something we can't see, so captains need to go on intuition when it comes to their players I feel.
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Post by Chippen on Apr 9, 2008 16:04:56 GMT 7
There is a difference between holding back because an injury, and holding back because of reaching their limits. Undoubtedly would going on injured until reaching ones limit be reckless. Some people might find it admirable that they wont give in until they reach their limit, no matter in what circumstances, but I don't.
Edit: Good points, Burst.
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Post by serthia on Apr 9, 2008 17:44:11 GMT 7
Its all about working hard people!.....^^
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Post by moehoshi on Apr 14, 2008 7:40:29 GMT 7
Thumbs up for Orange-san and Chippen-san. b('u')b I totally agree.
In my opinion, the strongest is not always the best.
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Post by rie on Apr 14, 2008 20:15:02 GMT 7
yea, but some of them are both strong and best!! I think Tezuka might be an example.....
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Post by kuro5neko5kun on Jun 24, 2008 12:32:58 GMT 7
I like Tezuka! I think he does care for his team, he just shows it more conservatively. Like when Ryoma injured his eye..... And Tezuka encourages his teammates as well as he can for being somewhat socially retarded/unable to talk a lot to other people. He seems rather inspirational for his team, even if he is rather reckless with his health. Minami and Akazawa and Aoi are kind of ignored, even if they are in a position of "power". They don't really seem like captain material...
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Post by yuki446 on Jul 30, 2008 18:30:46 GMT 7
i felt sorry for Kentarou Minami but he's still cool. is it just me or does Kentarou Minami look like Kurobane from Rokkaku???
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