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Post by genichirou on Aug 25, 2007 9:33:47 GMT 7
um one of my friends (he's a fan-subber) told me that there are rumours about echizen's amnesia having got to do something with unlocking the pinnacle of perfection - like kintarou said (refer to the thread "chapter 354"
"well the first time echizen went into muga no kyouchi.. was in the match with kirihara right - at least according to the manga. he then won 6-4 but when he woke up at genichirou's place he couldnt remember who won. and couldnt really remember the match"- thats what my friend said. so.... yeah.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 25, 2007 9:44:51 GMT 7
a lot of people have been saying that his amnesia has something to do with the pinacle of perfection. i have seen it on a lot of forums
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Post by whisper on Aug 25, 2007 10:08:35 GMT 7
Yeah, I thought it would be something like that, but I just read the Kintarou//Echizen match again. Afterwards when it was hinted that Echizen opened up the last door his dad listening over the radio said that Ryoma had it wrong and still has a ways to go.
Well, let's just wait and see.
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Post by whisper on Aug 25, 2007 10:14:17 GMT 7
Also I look forward to the up and coming match. With two combustible elements such as Kaidoh and Kirahara (i'm glad the Manga kept his character as it is) in the same match along with their respected data-tennis fools... it ought to be one heck of a match.
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Post by shiraishik on Aug 25, 2007 17:21:38 GMT 7
i can't wait for that match either, but Rikkaidai is confusing the order on me. If Sanada played Singles 3 and Renji and Kirihara are playing Doubles 2, then I guess Yagyuu and Niou are still playing Doubles 1, which leaves Jackel, Bunta, and Yukimura....of those three, you can assume Yukimura would play Singles 1(obviously) but who would play Singles 2? and if Niou and Yagyuu aren't playing Doubles, that leaves all of Rikkai's doubles players open for Singles. Personally, i think Bunta should play singles cause he's awesome, but i don't know if he fixed his stamina problem yet (it'll probably be a really drawn out match, right?)
sry if this is confusing, it's basically just me rambling because no one at my house watches/reads Prince of Tennis
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Post by tezuka on Aug 26, 2007 0:54:36 GMT 7
did anyone read chapter 355 it is out i read it. renji opens his eyes i always wanted to know how he would look since he always has them close. fuji has his eyes close but opens when he gets serious.
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Post by shiraishik on Aug 26, 2007 3:35:36 GMT 7
i just read 355 (well idk what number it was but i saw Renji's eyes so it must be) when he opened them i was like O.o
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 26, 2007 9:14:36 GMT 7
Amnesia, a state of the mind in which you can't remember anything of your past recollections. And thus leaves the mind pure. Hmm... makes it seem like perfection in which one remembers from instinct alone. However we all know he is going to release it since it is the finals.
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Post by marui on Aug 27, 2007 21:56:52 GMT 7
Can amnesia be healed?
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 27, 2007 23:40:26 GMT 7
yes that's why it's mostly temporary. But sometimes it lasts a long time.
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Post by marui on Aug 28, 2007 0:35:27 GMT 7
How do people get amnesia?
Perhaps we can link that to why Ryoma's got it...
EDIT: Amnesia may result from chronic alcoholism, brain tumour and encephalitis as well as brain trauma.
Sounds un-Ryoma-ish to me.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 28, 2007 0:39:56 GMT 7
External trauma, such as a blow to the head
Internal trauma, such as stroke
Exposure to a toxic substances such as carbon monoxide
Inadequate diet
Brain tumors
Seizures
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Post by tezuka on Aug 28, 2007 0:41:55 GMT 7
they have different forms of amnesia
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 28, 2007 0:48:06 GMT 7
still it doesn't seem natural for ryoma to get it. Besides they used the whole amnesia thing during the episode with kaidoh so why replay it? Unless that's how ryoma unlock the pinacle of perfection.
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Post by marui on Aug 28, 2007 1:07:23 GMT 7
But Kaidoh's amnesia was one of the anime-fillers, it never happened in the manga. Maybe, just to style out some of the anime-fillers, the mangaka decided to use some of the ideas?
But I agree with the amnesia thing having something to do with Ryoma unlocking the PoP.
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Post by genichirou on Aug 28, 2007 16:09:17 GMT 7
hmm i think i pointed out earlier- when ryoma first used selfactualization (in the match with kirihara) he kind of had partial amnesia- he forgot who won and was only able to vaguely remember the match when he was at genichirou's place.
besides, why would they want ryoma to have amnesia for other reasons?
this is the last national match so ryoma's gotta play in it!
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Post by marui on Aug 28, 2007 18:42:38 GMT 7
Yup yup. And after the Kirihara vs Fuji match, Kirihara woke up forgetting who had won or what had happened.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 28, 2007 20:33:09 GMT 7
he did Muga no Kyochi against fuji when they had their match? that was in the manga
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Post by tezuka on Aug 28, 2007 20:36:47 GMT 7
if it as in manga why didn't the anime show it? they skip out on things that's why i started to read the manga also
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Post by marui on Aug 28, 2007 20:52:06 GMT 7
Yeah, Kirihara did Muga no Kyochi in the match against Fuji in the manga.
The anime didn't introduce Muga no Kyochi until the beginning of the nationals, OVA 6, Tezuka vs Kite.
Muga no Kyochi was introduced before the Rikkai matches in the manga, Echizen was the first one to do it, against Kirihara in an unofficial match.
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Post by whisper on Aug 29, 2007 6:54:11 GMT 7
Actually, Muga no Kyochi was introduced in the anime during Echizen's match against Sanada in the Kanto tournament. No one really knew what it was though, they were just in awe that he was copying everyone elses moves.
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Post by tezuka on Aug 29, 2007 10:28:45 GMT 7
i thought that sanada could do it to. why didn't he know what it was
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Post by marui on Aug 29, 2007 18:25:12 GMT 7
Actually, Muga no Kyochi was introduced in the anime during Echizen's match against Sanada in the Kanto tournament. Oops, my bad, ^^" gomen. Anyway, like tezuka said, if Sanada knew how to do SOSA, and so did Tezuka (he had it sealed in his first year), then why didn't they recognize it? Were they also in 'awe'? Or were they just playing dumb? |
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Post by shiraishi on Aug 31, 2007 1:15:44 GMT 7
Back in the anime they named the move like "the eye of the tiger or something" perhaps they didn't make muga until later on and then had to rename it. Well I still don't understand what happened in Karuizawa, did he get into an accident or something? (Perhaps his father has a role in this after all we saw him after the semifinals saying mada mada daze ryoma.)
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Post by marui on Aug 31, 2007 2:57:27 GMT 7
Yeah, maybe Nanjiroh 'forced' that amnesia to Echizen xD(ok, so that's not possible). But I used to get confused with Tachibana's aura and the SOSA.
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