No love for Koshimae?

[kiriharathedevil]

Why does everyone hate Ryoma?

You say he's overated....HOW he earns all his wins

Quite frankly it pisses me off when people hate on him for winning >_>

But it's okay for Fuji to win every match with a deep topspin shot, A fancy lob, and a ball that flies up?

Fuji is overated but i'll get into that another day, everywhere i go people hate Ryoma. I got tired of the main character who is stupid or lacks confidence, we get a smart main character whose good at what he does and people hate him? People also say he doesn't work for his abilities or lose>_>

He plays and loses to tennis good nanjirou on a daily basis, he practices everyday, and he's also a goodlooking character

END RANT

Please stop insulting Koshimae so much >_< ;D

[hakuryu]

[personally im suprised that no one has responded to this before i have...

first, fuji and ryoma basically win their matches the same way, with kick-ass moves that are basically un-returnable
only fuji perfected his moves over a span of 3 years while echizen does new ones like every other match

second, i agree that stupid/self-doubting main characters are extremely annoying, but ryoma is the exact opposite. he takes arrogance to a new level and that really bugs me. if he were a more modest/not so stuck-up character i would like him a lot more

third, everyone practices a lot (though it cant be denied that ryoma practices with the best player in the world) and looks have nothing to do with skill (though it does sort of have stuff to do whether you like a character)

i have no clue why i wrote this.... i havent flamed ryoma once except now in any of my posts..... XD]

[AK]

mm.... I juz dunt like Ryoma. . .and is Koshimae his seiyuu~

I like his seiyuu actually sa~ but not Ryoma~

[kiriharathedevil]

Koshimae is Ryomas name in another dialect i think (kintaro calls him that)

I don't think he's more arrogant than say....

Sanada who intended to beat tezuka with one move
Fuji with his lame ass one liner (that ball....wont go over the net)
and god forbid he's more arrogant than Atobe

Also arrogance is bad when you can't back it up, when ryoma's in a corner you see in in his face. Fuji perfecting his counters is a week argumant, He invented Hecaton in the middle of a match and invented Honshi hanabi soon after.

Ryoma's techniques are practiced as well, he was working on COOL drive since before Rokkaku

If your dad was the best tennis player of all time, you were goodlooking and wealthy...wouldn't you be a tad cocky?

[hakuryu]

[Koshimae is another way to read "echizen" in kanji i think, and since kintarou is a little strange, he read it the wrong way *i think, correct me if im wrong*

not as arrogant as atobe? nationals: continued atobes ritual XD

let see... fuji has three counters since the beginning of the series and at the end of the anime (regular season)
in the nationals, he showed his newly invented kagero zutsumi (this shouldnt have been shown, its incredibly lame...) in his first match against Higa. then in his second match, he upgraded the originial triple counters and showed his "final counter". in prince of tennis terms this "evolution" would be due to pressure from Shiraishi and a desire to win. and then in the next match the 6h counter (which has a uber lame name) was used against nioh
the nationals have made fuji really cheap, and an "overated" character

now ryoma: started with twist serve, and nitoryu (all thanks to his dad). and learned/invented a whole bunch of moves... *taken from wiki* Twist Smash, Drive A, Drive B, Drive C, COOL Drive, One-Footed Split Step, and Cyclone Smash (note that i do not read manga please, except some of the nationals) and thats not to mention all of ryoma's copying off people

ryoma obviously has more cheap moves than fuji, though both of them have easy wins

o and btw, fuji has actualy lost lots/some matches while ryoma has like lost... one, maybe two?

please excuse my ranting *cough* I know that everyone has different opinions, but still, "quite frankly it pisses me off" when people flame Fuji (just as you get angry when ppl flame echizen ;D)

i think ill shut up now... so excuse my serious rants above is they offend you in anyway...
longest post ive ever done 0.o]

[kiriharathedevil]

But fuji has a fanbase while Koshimae has none

Ryoma copies people....big deal you can't claim a move, and Muga No Kyouchi is random

Instead of compliment Ryoma for Mastering the rising, or the Zero-shiki drop or the Buggy whip, people call him a copycat.

And by loss i meant Singles in which fuji lost to shiraishi (which is why i LOVED that match)

Drive A isn't cheap it's obviously going to the face
Drive B can be seen a mile away
Drive D can be beaten if you can beat Drive B
COOL drive was bested by Atobe
Drive C is cheap but so is Tsubame Gaeshi

Twist serve is an actual Tennis Move and Ambidexterity is either genetic or trained for

[mada]

to tell the truth i used to like ryoma but not anymore... he has to win every match don't know why bu that starts to piss me off that's why i dont like him anymore..... oh yea he thinks he's all that too.

trying to be nice here by the way

[shiraishi]

ughh there was no need to start a fight in this thread... If there has to be a fight check out the thread on which has a huge debate on it. Other than that do not post unless you love koshimae, after all that's what the whole topic is about, garnering support for the poor guy. Other than that I find this topic extremely repetitive so try only to post if you LIKE RYOMA.

thank you.

[genichirou]

Please take a look at the new stickied thread titled "Debate Threads" and create a new thread on this topic. I'll lock this thread.